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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sportsman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Even if they do consolidate schools, it'll take 5-7 years to build a new one. Pound's field house does need work. Kelly's football field is due to get new bleachers on the visitor's side, so that could be considered a waste too, unless they buy some that can be moved to a new location in a few years.

    </div></div>I'm usually wrong, but I think this is a building that will go up quick, it is steel and can be moved fairly easy. So the board can store their cars in it or whatever if the school gets closed. What about the VECDA's writing off millions of taxpayer dollars as grants instead of loans? I see how LCCH pays for their school, they don't let the folks give the coal severance dollars away. The story is in the Coalfield, and the loans should have been repaid by the county for the tec park. I see why we have trouble getting jobs in town, with deals like this. First loans , now forgiving and converting to grants, how do we tell how much and if the cash goes for anything good? They didn't get the last jobs, because folks didn't want to consolidate schools, so now we pay for the tec park loan with taxes? But we don't have money for Pound to dress.....wonder what is wrong with this?

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    And here is the clip about the cost from the Bristol link.
    " However, the costs of new buildings did not include extra expenses for athletic facilities, land purchase, site preparation and other necessary costs, said Dr. Gregory Killough, the superintendent.
    The school system is looking at whether to renovate the aging high schools or consolidate and build one, two or three new schools.
    Gene Rowland, a school system administrator, said the high schools currently have 294 employees. Building three schools would require 226 workers, while two schools would need 223. One central school would require 191 employees, he said.
    Rowland said the staff could be reduced without layoffs because some teachers would retire and incentives could be offered for early retirements.
    In terms of salary, the school system pays its high school staffs $11 million now. In a system of three high schools, the salary costs would be reduced by $2.6 million, he said. Two new schools would reduce costs by $2.7 million per year, while one school would net a salary savings of $3.7 million annually.
    The School Board also learned that building one high school would mean an annual loss of $400,000 in state basic aid. "
    If we build, one school is plenty, Coeburn is a good example of why one is all we need. Somewhere out of town and away from the railroad tracks with room for expansion if the power plant or jails bring enough jobs to justify extra classes.

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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 7teen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had heard the field house was just going to be a shell building? Any truth to that?</div></div>
    I understand the proposal for a new building is for a metal pre-fab: <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Head football coach Chris Crabtree presented new plans to the county school board at a July 23 meeting that include a new 30-by-70-foot pre-fab steel building that would serve as the team's new field house.
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    Our County can not afford to build three or two or even one new school. We can not afford to renovate them for over 80 million either, but we can use some common sense and spend between 5-8 million per school and get them fixed up for the next 20 to 30 years, and not destroy the community involvement that we have now. But if we listen to the Bates guy on the school board he thinks we should consolidate. Oh how I wish Coach Turner was still alive to hear that!

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    Who is to say what the county can and can't afford?
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lpdball</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Our County can not afford to build three or two or even one new school. We can not afford to renovate them for over 80 million either, but we can use some common sense and spend between 5-8 million per school and get them fixed up for the next 20 to 30 years, and not destroy the community involvement that we have now. But if we listen to the Bates guy on the school board he thinks we should consolidate. Oh how I wish Coach Turner was still alive to hear that! </div></div>

    lmao.....shows what you know. the bates guy you are referring to is tom turner's brother-in-law.....lol.

    major construction can't take place without bring the buildings up to code. you can build new ones as cheap as you can renovate the old ones due to that fact.

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    That's true as far as simply renovating or building a school...but when you take into account site preparation, land purchase etc etc, renovation is cheaper.
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    Renovation is cheaper at the moment then in these old buildings you will be renovating again in 15 years for another 50-60 million and then you are spending twice as much and still have nothing to show for it.
    Don't really matter, the majority of the board members in now are just waffling till the state steps in and takes over and says you will do this now and they can say "well we tried but the state is making us do it" so they can save face with the anti-consolidation faction and still please the pro's.

    If you really want to have some fun get into a conversation with Kyle Fletcher about it and shoot down all his points or make solid rebuttle points of your own and watch him squirm and listen to all the political double talk he tries to spout out and then remind him that's not what he said 2 minutes earlier. My wife had to walk away to keep from laughing in his face.
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TheBeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Renovation is cheaper at the moment then in these old buildings you will be renovating again in 15 years for another 50-60 million and then you are spending twice as much and still have nothing to show for it. </div></div>

    I completely agree with that. Renovations will only nickle-and-dime these structures to death, at our expense.
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    In 15-20 years, even if you have new buildings, folks will be calling for the renovation of those as well...they won't stay new forever. In the beginning, I thought new schools were the best option...now though, I don't think either option has more benefits than the other. I think if they can save the money required for site prep etc, they should keep the present schools only if they are willing to gut them and modernize them to the point they would have the same features of a new school. Then 15 years down the road you have basically the same thing as if a new school were built.
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